REDEFINING STRENGTH

Celebrate The Small Wins

podcast

I’m Cori

Welcome To The Redefining Strength Podcast

Cori (00:00):
Welcome to the Redefining Strength Podcast, everything you need to succeed on your health and fitness journey, even the stuff you don't want to hear. What if good enough is the secret to you finally seeing the results you deserve? I want to talk about why that is exactly the case, and I'm happy to be joined by Coach Lizzie today. So Lizzie, welcome. Excited to dive into why we need to ditch that all or nothing attitude.

Lizzie (00:29):
Hey, thanks for having me. I'm excited to talk about just being good enough.

Cori (00:34):
So let's talk about this because even hearing the words good enough, my type A achiever brain is like, ah, and it instantly puts the brakes on. But I have personally found that the more I embrace that, the better my results have become. Why do we need to ditch the all or nothing attitude and how can we then start to embrace this good enough as a secret to success?

Lizzie (00:57):
So it's really funny because I'm the opposite of type A personality, so not an overachiever over here. So for me it's easy to just be like, oh, just dial it back a little bit. But that myth of all or nothing and striving for perfection really sets us up for failure more than just striving for just trying to be a little better for ourselves, and it allows us to take a step back and make better decisions rather than spending the energy on thinking about which decision am I going to make out of all of the decisions that I could make.

Cori (01:35):
I think that's such a key point is it's relating back to meeting ourselves where we're at right now to make the best decision for ourself right now instead of basing it off an ideal, but it's hard to focus on where we are right now to move forward. How do you help someone take that assessment to be like, well, what do I need?

Lizzie (01:56):
Yeah, so honestly, and I think every coach's favorite words are, it depends. I like to start with what do you have fun with and then how can we make that a healthy lifestyle for you? And so a lot of the times when we think, oh, we need to be healthy, or I want to gain muscle, I want to lose weight, I want just my body composition to change, we think of what we have to do to do that rather than what are we doing now to help us get there and what are we doing now that are small little habits that we can build into and trick our mind into working out in different ways and eating differently. So that's always my first conversation is what do you enjoy doing and why do you enjoy doing it and how can we build from there?

Cori (02:52):
I think another key point from what you just said is that you have to recognize the habits you're doing right now that are driving you forward as well, because so often we just recognize all the things we're either not doing or that we're doing that are holding us back instead of reflecting on the things that may actually be paying off to double down on first. And I think that comes back to us, yes, recognizing what's fun, but also redefining what we need to achieve results in how we train or how we fuel a little bit. How can we go about that process of starting to assess what habits we actually need to move forward?

Lizzie (03:31):
So a lot of the times is reminding people that movement counts, just movement counts. How much are you walking and are you just walking because you're walking your dog? Are you parking further away from the door? Are you taking the stairs instead of the elevator? Just reminding people that those things count and yes, we all have whatever our goal is, whether it's to look different, feel better, feel different, whatever, but reminding people that 10 minutes of whatever it is that you're doing has a health benefit. It is healthy, it's improving your blood pressure, it's improving your cholesterol, and that's a starting point.

Cori (04:22):
10 minutes done daily adds up to a lot of minutes over the years and it does really pay off. And the more we shift our perspective of what counts to everything counts, everything is a vote for the person we're becoming. Even that one minute of movement we do in between when we get up to go pee between zoom calls can count as something. And the more we shift that perspective on what counts, as you said, the better off we're going to be. And it's not just with our training, it's also with our diet as well.

Lizzie (04:51):
Yes, yes, yes, yes. The amount of people I talk to that are harder on themselves with their diet than I would be on them. And it's like, I really want you as a client to notice that having a smaller piece of cake was the win. It was the win. And that is we can build from that. You made that conscious decision and a lot of the times I think micro habits slash habit snacks I think is what people are calling them or habit stacks. People don't realize that it's just thinking about it in that split second that's helping you to improve. So thinking about instead of having that whole bag of popcorn, I only had half of it versus I shouldn't have had that popcorn at all. Is such a good mindset shift?

Cori (05:44):
It is because so often, while we do want daily consistency for results to build, if you think about the shift in calories, even going to the little math because the only math I do is barbell and macros is think about like, hey, yes, that might be 200 fewer calories you had on this one day and yes, maybe that was still 200 calories over your normal intake, but over the course of the year, if you're cutting out 200 calories from each of those episodes, the emotional eating challenges that you might face or different things like that, the better off you're going to be and the fewer calories over the course of the year, you're actually going to have eaten and the more momentum you're going to build. So there's so many other payoffs from even the mathematical data standpoint, but from the momentum you're building just by that one little shift. So if we get too granular and only focus on a single day over stepping back to look at weeks, months and years, we don't really see the full payoff. And I think it's key that you brought up micro habits because that's not just our diet and workouts that we're evolving, it's truly our whole lifestyle that can pay off.

Lizzie (06:45):
Yes, I dunno. I dunno about you, but I have a rule for myself. If I don't get six hours of sleep, I'm not allowed to work out. That is my rule for myself that I started after an injury at some point a while back. But it's those kinds of habits where it's like instead of thinking, oh, I didn't get to work out today, I didn't get enough sleep so I allowed my body to recover today. And just going back to what you said about just over a year, all of these small things can add up. It's hard when you join a program, whether it's a half a year, a few months when you build a program or when you join a program because you want to think if I'm not perfect from week to week, then it's not going to work. So I try to remind people, look at it in a year, look at your macro cycle. It's a year and it's going to go from a year to two years to your entire life. What are you doing most of the time to work towards that goal? Lifelong, it's a lifelong goal. So you can't be perfect every day.

Cori (07:48):
You can't you're human. And the more we recognize that this quest to be perfect is actually holding us back often from doing the little somethings that pay off, the more we can step back to say, Hey, how am I defining perfect even because I think that's almost it. Or at least for me, it was more the reframe I needed of if I have this quest to be perfect and I want to be more perfect with it, knowing that as a human I'll never be perfect with it, how can I make the perfect something more achievable, which is where that good enough sort of comes into play. Maybe your ideal is six days a week, but realistically you can train for three, so therefore why not set your goal as three to be able to be perfect with something you know can truly hit and maybe even get a fourth in and be better than. So that's where the micro habits can even come into play. If you focus on drinking even one more glass of water, if that feels really doable, that builds the momentum to want to do more. But it also allows you to be good enough to see results while potentially being perfect with something that's truly realistic and doable. I do think so much is in the momentum we're creating from these things as well.

Lizzie (08:57):
Yeah, honestly, it's really easy to, one, we all know compare ourselves to others, and two, it's really easy to forget that a lot of people want that instant gratification and you don't get that instant gratification from saying, I want to work out six days a week and only getting three days a week. But you do get that instant gratification if you only work out three days a week, you feel really good after working out three days a week and then maybe one day in the next four weeks you have the times do a fourth and you're like, oh, maybe I can do this. And what people don't notice is when it becomes the habit, you're not thinking about it as much and it's less energy spent on thinking, I need to do this, I need to do this, I need to do this. And more energy spent on actually enjoying doing it.

Cori (09:49):
The things become stacked and connected and the momentum is going in the right direction. And the more you do, the more you do, and that can really be in that positive direction or in the negative. So if you think about feeling like you failed at something, you are more likely to not do anything because of that feeling of failure. And it's also recognizing that what feels like a small habit when stacked with other small habits really builds. And I like to think of it as like a toilet paper roll or a paper towel roll where you pull off one little piece of paper and it doesn't seem like much, but over time pulling off a single piece of paper at a time, the roll becomes empty and you start to see actually the progress happen faster and faster as the roll gets lower and lower. Unfortunately, if you're in the bathroom and don't have extra toilet paper, it's a really bad thing that's complete tangent, but it does, it snowballs and adds up so much faster. The more momentum you built, the longer you've been at it, so to speak. And so I think it's recognizing that all those little things, the more time you give them, the bigger they build.

Lizzie (10:44):
And one thing that I've noticed is the more you can link the smaller habits to enjoyment and happiness, the more likely you are to do it. Again, let's just talk running for example, because people don't like to run, but a lot of people don't like to run because we start off way too fast. We give ourselves, oh, instead of running for five minutes, I'm going to go and I'm going to run a mile. Because that's what everyone's doing. And your most recent memory of running is, I hated that it hurt, but if you just do a five minute run and then a 20 minute walk after you're like, man, that five minutes felt really good and so you want to do it again and then you want to do it again without even thinking about it

Cori (11:31):
Build. I was going to say it's truly shifting the mindsets associated with habits because so often it isn't the actual action that was bad or restrictive or harmful, it was often the mindsets along with it. And I even think about that often with tracking. Most of us don't like tracking our food coming into things because we've always used it in the past in a negative situation or to restrict. So we associate things with potentially negative mindsets because of how we've used them in the past. I think that's even reframing how we view food and how we view nutritional changes and how we view exercise. All that comes back to what you mentioned, that joy and that reframing of the mindset associated with the changes in actions.

Lizzie (12:12):
Yes. Oh my gosh. Tracking. I have a love hate relationship with tracking, but 100% I think you could, for anyone who has tracked to restrict, you could give them 500 more calories and tell them to track it and it would still feel like a restriction. And so going back to hunger signals and instead of just tracking why don't you eat? Tell me what your hunger signals are and then track the food. Just rebuilding that relationship with why am I doing this? Am I enjoying this? And if I'm not enjoying it, how can I enjoy it?

Cori (12:52):
And then there's not only the feeling of restriction sometimes with nutritional changes, but the feeling of guilt. There are so much food guilt, and I know for me personally that it held me back for the longest time. I would be like, okay, I want to get more to find. I have to make nutritional changes. I have to cut out my dessert that I love so much, and I would feel guilty the first time I would have the sweet treat and then I would completely fall off because if I got a flat tire and pull over by the side of the road, it's logical to slash the other three not just fix the flat. So of course then I'd have all the desserts be feel like I was so bad and they'd be like, okay, I'm starting over. If I just, and which I finally did ditch the guilt around having that one thing and said, Hey, let's figure out ways to work this in. There's a completely different reframe and it's embracing oddly being good enough, but not in a way that I'm saying, oh, I'm letting myself off the hook.

Lizzie (13:44):
Yep. I actually found, and it took a while of me tracking to figure out that I have a sweet tooth too. I love some ice cream. If I just track it before, even if I'm not sure I'm going to have it, if I just track it let's say Monday through Friday, then it's kind of fun to figure out what I can eat during the day to figure out how I can have my ice cream. And the thing that I think when it comes to tracking and that all or nothing mindset is, I'm sure you've heard this before too, it's like, oh, I can't have the rice, I can't have the buns. It's too many carbs. And it's like, oh, but you could have one third of serving of the rice. Have you ever tried cutting the serving? And people are like, wait, I can do that. It's like, yes, you can take a partial serving because like you said, you don't have to slash all four tires. And the same goes for getting rid of all the food. You can just have a small piece of it and it'll fit.

Cori (14:42):
It's getting creative with how we're making things work for our lifestyle based on what we want our balance to be. But I think it's not only seeing the nuance in how you include those things because maybe maybe that didn't fit with a low carb ratio you did at another point, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't fit now. But it's also not just seeing foods as like, this is good for my health, this is bad for my health, but recognizing that health is so many different aspects and it's mental too. And sometimes including food that yes, while not as micronutrient beneficial for our physical health, it's not as micronutrient rich. It does have mental benefits that allow for us to ultimately not only feel better, sleep, better, enjoy our lifestyle, but ultimately do more of the good things that we should be doing, eating more of those whole natural foods because we don't feel so restricted so we don't completely fall off. So it's changing the labels we even have for foods as well.

Lizzie (15:37):
100%. I mean I feel like if tracking and telling yourself, not tracking, but if telling yourself no to the foods that we call indulgences is causing more stress than just eating them, I'm going to tell you to just eat them and we're going to figure out how to make it work. Because I mean people don't realize it's the cortisol levels are really going to mess with you, it's going to mess with your sleep. And then at that point we're just kind of in a doom loop. My favorite word. So yeah, figuring out how to reframe it exactly like you said, we don't want to feel guilty, we don't want to hide it from anyone. And a big part of that is finding the people who are going to celebrate that with you, celebrate eating that food with you.

Cori (16:24):
It truly is finding your balance and going back to what you mentioned at the beginning, finding the joy and the different habits that you're doing to do more of those things while understanding the cost and reward of everything you're including, what's moving you forward and maybe what isn't. So off of all of that, how do we start to build that good enough routine that satisfies both our aspirations, our drive towards our goal, but also the joy of life? And as cliche as it is, embracing the process and loving the journey,

Lizzie (16:57):
I think that the best way to start that, and one of the hardest ways to start that is to take a step back and ask yourself why you're doing it. If you're doing it for someone else, it's probably not going to work. You want to ask yourself why you're doing it and is it for me? And if the answer is yes, I still think starting slow is the answer. If you come to me and you say you want to work out five days a week, but you were recently doing nothing, I'm going to push back on that and I'm going to say, Hey, let's get two successful weeks of two days a week. And it's really just dialing it back and knowing that slow start is not only running, your body is going to thank you for slowing down and so feeling the benefits of slowing down, it's just like life. Why do we want to grow up so fast? Slow it down.

Cori (18:01):
It truly is that reflection and asking yourself why Even with that, hey, why do you want to do five days a week? Is this what you've always done in the past and why you've always felt like you're starting over and falling off things? That reflection and starting with that to meet ourselves where we're at is probably one of the most underutilized tools because it does really allow you to make changes that are accurate, that are able to build that momentum. So I love that reflection to start. And once you started reflecting, how do you help someone then go about picking even what to change or what things do you start to change?

Lizzie (18:37):
So I don't know, I'm sure you've noticed this too, but I actually start to notice the slower you start, if you start slow and allow people to come to you and say, Hey, I want this, I want this. It works better than starting too fast and then you having to jump in for a client and saying, Hey, I'm going to take this away and take this away. And that goes back to your positive associations with what you're doing. And so going back to I'm starting you off at two days, usually I get clients, unicorns come to me and say, that felt really good. I want more of this. And it's easy to have that conversation of great, we're doing it because it felt good and not we're doing it because someone on YouTube told me that this is what I'm supposed to be doing. And so it's building that positive association with I feel good so I'm doing it or I enjoyed it so I'm doing it versus I hated that. Can we do something else?

Cori (19:35):
The word that comes to mind is choice that gives us the power of choice because we feel like we are choosing the next steps. We feel like we get to make the change over, we have to make the change. And that reframe to build is so valuable. So it's starting with almost the silly simple workout habit that we can do, the minimum we can do and then saying, okay, how can I build off of that? Making choices to change up my schedule and then decide where to go next.

Lizzie (20:04):
Yes. And going back into, I say going back into fitness, we haven't been talking about it this whole time, but going back into fitness, I think a lot of people forget that a lot of the things we do on a day-to-day basis are considered our sport. We see professional athletes strength train for their sport all the time. Why are you working out? Is it because you want to play with your kid, you want to play with your grandkid, you want to walk your dog? Or is it because when you walk, your hip hurts? And so you want to strengthen for walking. And so finding your good enoughs, right? So if my good enough is 20 to 30 minutes of walking, I'm going to strength train to make sure that I'm walking at my best and just building from there.

Cori (20:56):
And so often we think we don't have enough time, which is where we sabotage ourselves and we think we can't do things perfectly because we can't design this hour long workout. But really if we own our goal and design with intention, we can fit something into our schedule that moves us forward. It's just truly designing everything with intention versus feeling like there's some arbitrary number or standard we have to hit, which I think is where we so often fall prey to that self-sabotage even.

Lizzie (21:23):
Yes, and I've been using using analysis paralysis a lot lately, and I think that pre-planning, a lot of us don't want to plan because of the energy it takes to plan, but then if we don't plan, it takes, again, I mentioned this before, it takes more energy to then convince yourself to do something out of routine. If you can take the five minutes on a Sunday to plan out what time you're working out every day or three days next week, you're more likely to do it than just saying, I'll do it when I have the time. I don't know about you, but if I say I'll do it on my lunch break, I'm not doing it on my lunch break.

Cori (22:08):
Eisenhower has this quote that says, plans are useless, but planning is indispensable. And it kind of reminds me of that because it's something of life never fully goes as we plan. You might have to shift the two or three days a week that you have, but a lot of times if you've planned for two to three days a week knowing that you could technically probably even do four, you'll get those two to three days in even if they have to shift what days they're on. So that's where the value of having that pre-planned thing comes into play while allowing for even that flexibility to move with how life pushes you a little bit.

Lizzie (22:42):
Yes, and I don't know about you. I'm a meditator and everyone meditates at different times a day, but people have found that if you meditate, just like working out in the morning, the day can't mess it up, the day hasn't hit you yet. So if you can get those anchor points for yourself, whether it's a morning or an afternoon or a night, it doesn't matter what morning or afternoon or night, like you said, you can shift it. It doesn't have to be Monday, it can be Wednesday. And that's why I like to also go back to maybe only doing three workouts a week because that means you have four days that you can then switch to if one day doesn't work out.

Cori (23:25):
But I think that's a key point that you made about the anchor points. We have to have those things that we've set with intention and then even found ways to prioritize because we do prioritize what we value, and if you value that meditation, you're going to make time for it in the morning and then you're going to set your whole day up in a specific way because of that one thing anchoring it. But I also think that things that maybe we don't value as much, we can make those anchor points by putting them first in our day. So there's this weird cycle of we can sort of control some of those things by recognizing what we do and do not value to prioritize, and then how we then put things that we might let slide otherwise as those anger points by doing them first, by connecting them with another habit, by somehow making them more valuable for ourselves.

Lizzie (24:10):
For sure. How many times have you shared a recipe with someone who doesn't like to cook and they've gotten excited about cooking this new recipe that they've never tried before? I consider meal prep Sundays, right? Everyone talks about meal prep Sundays, but then it gets boring after a while when you're meal prepping the same thing every Sunday, but if you prioritize every Sunday cooking something new, it all of a sudden changed to something exciting. And so it's not just about the anchor points, but it's about making the anchor points back to the beginning enjoyable.

Cori (24:47):
It's true. We get excited by the prospect of something new or that diversity or fun or whatever it is that does create that desire to do an old habit because it's given it that shiny new coat. It's like when you clean your car all of a sudden you're like, oh, it's the same old car, but you feel a little bit better getting into it, right? When you've organize your house, you feel a little bit better getting into it. Maybe I let laundry build up way too long, but when I finally folded all the laundry and put it away, all of a sudden it's like, oh, there's a refresh to it. And I think so often we just get into the monotony of something and we don't realize how we can do it in a new way to refresh it, to make it something that we're excited to do.

Lizzie (25:26):
Yeah. I do think, and I'm sure you've seen this too, it's so easy to, well, I think it's easy for coaches to stop the burnout before it happens for their clients versus the clients noticing the burnout because like you said, you don't notice that it's become monotonous until you've given up. And so I think it's important going back to just good enough to making sure that every week looks a little bit different. The routine can stay the same, but the meal you're eating or the meal you're cooking or the workout you're doing is slightly changing. And that's kind of how we start to really enjoy the smaller things that we're doing to build up over the year. And you can end up saying, I was active X amount of days in the year instead of half of that year before.

Cori (26:15):
It truly is the power of that pause to reflect and even gain perspective. And as you said, having a coach can be very valuable for that perspective, but just by reflecting on what we've done previous weeks, what we've enjoyed, what we haven't enjoyed, what our results were from it, all the different ways we might be seeing success even outside of the one goal that we have, that reflection can then help us not just get in such a grind with it, such a routine that it becomes boring for us, but actually see where is there opportunity for growth or where am I still encountering obstacles that may be making me feel like I'm working really hard without the payoff? Because that is something we don't recognize enough that a feeling of something being hard or us doing enough to see results doesn't mean that we're making all the changes necessary to reach our goal. And sometimes it's just the difficulty of habits to implement where we might see opportunity in breaking them down to make the cost of them a little less so that the reward or the outcome feels worth it

Lizzie (27:12):
For sure. It really is that if you keep doing the same thing over and over again, again, you're not going to see new results. So how can we change it to see our results and how can we change it to see our results as quickly as reasonably possible? And again, it's not necessarily the results isn't what we want, but it's to associate that good feeling with it and asking yourselves those questions of what did I do last week that I enjoyed? What did I do last week that I didn't enjoy that I can tweak? I'm not going to give up, but I'm going to tweak it to make it better for me this week. We don't stop and ask ourselves those questions enough

Cori (27:58):
Or even assess that seasons might dictate different shifts in what is good enough or what we enjoy or what is doable for us. And think about it, there's busy times of year maybe with work or family obligations, there's the holidays. How can we even find that good enough plan owning that all these different seasons might be dictating different habits, different enjoyment, they could even make us not enjoy something we were enjoying like previously or that did work for us previously?

Lizzie (28:28):
Yeah. Let's go back to steps because I think steps is a big one. If in, I'm trying to think of busy times a year. Let's just use November through January. If in August you would promised yourself you were going to walk 10,000 steps five days a week and you've done that, but you've also added in the three workouts a week, tracking seven days a week hitting 120 grams of protein seven days a week. When you get to busy season and your family's here causing chaos or you're traveling, you have to figure out where to put your dog and all that fun stuff. If the most you do is that 10,000 steps that you promised yourself you were going to do starting in August, you're going to feel really good about that. You promise yourself that back in August and that's what you're still doing. That's incredible.

Cori (29:22):
It's even comparing the same time of year in previous years where for me, I would have certain habits in January and the summer and then get into the holiday season and all those habits would just completely blow up. And if I was comparing the blowup to what I did during January the summer, I would feel guilty versus as I stopped the blow up and made it less bad, and I started to compare November to November the holiday season to the holiday season, January to January, I started to see improvements over year, over year. And while that's not sexy, it is growth and that ultimately helps your year build the results that you want. So it is recognizing that, hey, in August, all of that was realistic for you and that's amazing, but don't apply your August habits to November, embrace that November habits might look different. And so yes, saying this minimum that I'm setting to do all year round is great, but also when you do that, what other habits in November really fit around the holiday seasons to create that overall balance?

Lizzie (30:21):
Yes, actually it's fun to watch the mindset shift of I did a really good job every day for the past three months getting my protein goal too. I was on vacation in Cancun and I had protein with all of my meals, and that was a win for me. It's so fun as a coach to see that because that's all we want is that mindfulness and that intuition of just grab a piece of protein because now you know what a piece of protein is and you're doing it on your own. I didn't have to help.

Cori (30:55):
It's the good enough. Recognizing that the good enough is all in the comparison. And as you just said, if you're on vacation and every other vacation, you've just been like forget everything and had all the margaritas and all the chips in guacamole. If you're in CanCan and you've never had protein, then even just having protein, while it might not be as good as you were at home, it's still that improvement. So it's good enough, but it's recognizing that a lot of it is, and how we're judging yourself is in the perspective or in the comparison.

Lizzie (31:26):
Yes, and again, if we think about it, like writing a paper, doing a project, it's not going to be perfect the first time we do it year one, it's not going to be perfect. Year two, there's still going to be some errors, but it's better year three, now we're changing the game a little bit. Now we might be extending adding to it and it's better, but we can always get better and we can always get better, should come from what we want from ourselves, not from what we want from other people. So if there's always something that you want, why not do the minimum to get there and just be patient with the outcome, but to remember that it's also okay to celebrate the small wins and sit with it for however long want to.

Cori (32:20):
We can always get better. I love that you said that, and I think that's so key. I also think we'll always want to get better, what might've been even our ideal at one point with growth, a lot of times we can surpass so much of what we thought was the ultimate goal for us. I know there's been a lot of things that like, oh, I actually didn't shoot high enough on that. Other things I've over or set maybe too lofty a goal, at least for the timeline that I had. But so often when we just focus on being okay with wanting more and wanting to be better and recognizing there will always be room for growth even when we get there, so to speak, the more we can help ourselves embrace those minimums that ultimately move us forward and create lasting changes. So off of that, if someone were to be like, okay, this is all well and good, but I don't want to wait three years. What can I take action on now? What are three to five action items you would have someone take just to start building that good enough routine to move forward?

Lizzie (33:18):
Honestly, I'm going to say just do the movement you enjoy two to three times a week, whatever it is, do the movement you enjoy two to three times a week. Set a timer on it too. This is going to sound ridiculous, but when I was training my dog, I was training him professional training. I was told to stop playtime before the dog does because they want their last memory of it to be enjoyable. Set a timer if you want to go for a 30 minute walk, set that timer. Don't go for two hours today because you're probably not going to want to do it tomorrow, but set a timer. Give yourself that 20 to 30 minutes to do the movement that you enjoy. I also think one thing that is really underrated is just tracking. Not for any outcome, but just tracking. That's the next one. Just learn what food you're putting in your body and see how just tracking changes your habit, whether it's because you know I'm watching or just because you are now seeing it. That's the second one. And then the third one is getting more sleep. Sleep is underrated. Sleep needs the same marketing team as protein.

Cori (34:35):
I love that way of putting it the same marketing team. It definitely needs a lot more love and attention, and I think you hit on something so important with all those. Leave yourself wanting more. Yeah,

Lizzie (34:52):
I was going to say it's like the 80% fullness rule when we eat. We don't eat until we're uncomfortable. Well, we shouldn't should eat until we feel good enough to put the food down. It's the same with anything else. Do the thing while you're having fun and then call it. Call it,

Cori (35:11):
Leave yourself craving that extra so that you want to do more and you feel that success, momentum build because being good enough really is as hard as it might be as an all or nothing person, being good enough is truly the secret to success. Lizzie, thank you so much for all these great tips and for joining me today.

Lizzie (35:28):
Thanks. Can't wait to do it again.

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